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SOY finds its niche.....
Posted By: Cheryl
Date: Sunday, 16 June 2002, at 9:50 p.m.
Touted as a cure and a preventative for high cholesterol, heart disease and many cancers, a food for weight loss, an easily digestible protein replacement in human diets, this wonderful seeming panacea has found a brand new use, never imagined before. With a little testing and turning of the monkey wrenches, its been discovered that soy can be used as a fine boat fuel.......WHAT?! That’s right, BOAT FUEL, a newfangled invention called “Biodiesel” , said to be cleaner burning, and better smelling than diesel fuel.

From the LA TIMES article, Ventura County edition:

One by one, people drifted from an outdoor buffet table to the rumbling rear of a National Park Service boat called Sea Ranger II, sniffing the exhaust for its elusive bouquet.
"French fries,'' offered one man.
"Definitely not popcorn," someone else ventured. "Maybe a bit of Chinese restaurant."
"It's a pleasant smell," said Niel Madsen, who runs the fuel dock for Ventura Harbor Marine Fuel Inc.
"Regular diesel makes me seasick," he said.

Costs more than diesel, but they say it does less harm to the in any engine that runs on standard diesel.

"If we have an unplanned release, we're basically spilling vegetable oil into the ocean," said Rhonda Brooks, the ranger who oversees the national park's fleet. "It won't compromise the environment."

The Virginia Soybean Board is quite pleased this fuel has become available. New markets, more sales with SoyDiesel. AND, they can say you will feel good about using their product at the same time:

“The MRC Conservation and Replenishment Division has placed great emphasis on public education on the plight of the Chesapeake Bay oyster and we have incorporated information on the potential value of using SoyDiesel in support of bay cleanup efforts. “

Our government is in on the act, having already converted research vessels to the new fuel:

“It was a warm June day some five miles out on Lake Michigan and something new was in the air – the smell of French fries. But, where was the source? No, it wasn't a floating fast foods concession, or the work of an ambitious waterborne cook; the smell was coming from the exhaust stack of NOAA's research vessel Shenehon, now powered by biodiesel fuel, a soy bean product that when burned releases a French fry-like odor. “

Yes, pure soy oil or recycled restaurant cooking oil can now be used to power diesel engines for the environment conscious. Also, there is increased popularity of B-20, a biodiesel blend of 80% diesel fuel and 20% soy oil. (38% less nitrous oxide, 74% less carbon monoxide, and 100% less smoke particles than diesel fuel) This trend helps reduce dependence on foreign oil and shores up American soy farmers.
This from a local yacht owner:

“I say it puts this crap where it can be put to good use: in mechanical engines, not for human consumption in idiotic diets!”



VENTURA COUNTY - Officials Pumped Up Over Sweet-Smelling Boat Fuel –May 2002

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Other new uses for soy...
Posted By: Cheryl
Date: Monday, 17 June 2002, at 12:10 p.m.
In Response To: SOY finds its niche.....
Since being tipped off by my favorite pirate that soy is now being used to make diesel fuel, I’ve started looking for more media info on this wonderbean. Surprised (not...) to find it has many other incarnations besides fuel...and, I found this info published by the ‘United Soybean Org.’

Industrial Products

* Adhesives
* Agricultural Adjuvants
* Concrete Supplies
* Dielectric Fluids
* Dust Suppressants
* Fuel Oil Emulsifiers
* Hydraulic Fluids
* Industrial Cleaners
* Industrial Lubricants
* Metalworking Fluids
* Odor Reduction
* Paint Strippers
* Printing Inks
* Printing Supplies
* Saw Guide Oils

If you go to this page, you can click on each of these items to get the name of the product, a brief description of it, the big-name company which makes it, and a link to that company’s website! Of course, you might have to read some of their pro-product/ingredient propaganda too. I mean, these companies ARE soy!

I especially enjoyed the names of some of these new soy products, like “
BEAN-e-doo”, “Ickee Stickee Unstuck”, “Eliminator”, “SoyPower Graffiti Remover”, “Roadkill Dust Suppressant”, “SoyKill Dust Suppressant”.....gee, a LOT of the names are great!

Source: UNITED SOYBEAN ORG – Products list

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From the gas tank of a power boat right to your coffee pot!
Posted By: Cheryl
Date: Tuesday, 18 June 2002, at 9:42 p.m.
Graffiti remover extraordinaire, roadkill deodorizer......and now,
That’s right. Soy can also be made into COFFEE!!
Now I don’t know if its anything like regular coffee.
Or even Café du Monde........but they say its great.

Its even hand-picked, bean by bean, just like Juan Valdez used to do it. ( the days before the Exxon Valdez. Have you noticed they never show those commercials about Juan anymore?)

Using soy coffee helps the American farmer too, they’re very up front about it in this article. I guess a whole lot of American farmers have dumped other crops and gotten onto the soy train since the ‘Big 3 Soy Companies who Rule the World’ pushed through their government health claim.

From the article:

“About our soybeans: Never compromising on quality Soy Coffee .com uses only organic GMO-free beans produced from the richest soybean region in the world, the USA! So when you buy our soy coffee, your helping support the American farmers. Our beans are hand picked and carefully selected for consistent full bodied flavor in every bag.”

Never used soybeans in your coffeepot before? Well don’t rush to do it with your regular old soybeans you have sitting around........

“Think of soy coffee making as a form of cooking. Naturally you want to start with the best ingredients: Organic soybeans. While following a tested, proven recipe, you then need to prepare Soy fees Choice soy coffee in the right way and in the correct proportion.”

...... and the preparation technique is a little different than it is with real coffee beans.

“Use the right proportion of soy coffee to water. This is the most important stage of brewing soy coffee, because soy coffee that is made without exactly the right proportion of soy coffee to water will come out badly no matter how good the ingredients the brewer is using.”

Well....they SAY its because of the amount of water....I don’t know. Is there any other reason the coffee might come out badly?

“Use fresh, cold water just off a boil. Soy coffee is 98% water, so the water that you use will have a large effect on the coffee that you make. Avoid water from a water softener, city water that tastes like chlorine, well water that tastes like iron or sulfur or any water with a strong flavor. If your local tap water has no unpleasant favors, feel free to use it. Otherwise make your soy coffee with filtered or bottled water. The temperature of the water changes the flavor that comes from the beans. Water that has just been boiled that is at about 195-205 degrees extracts just the right amount of flavor from ground soy coffee. Any cooler and it can't adequately extract the soy coffee's complete range of flavors. An automatic coffee maker heats the water for you, make sure that the one you buy gets the water hot enough. When using a pot or kettle to heat water, bring the water to a boil. Then remove it from the heat and wait a few seconds before you pour it over the ground soy coffee.”

OK, first you gotta get the right kind of water....Just any old water won’t do, the soybeans won’t stand up to it. Local tap water is ok, but I see they avoid the risk by placing full blame on your own tastebuds. If it comes out bad, you didn’t notice your water wasn’t quite right. OK, OK, Next....I’ve got to run out and buy a candy thermometer to brew this stuff, that’s the temperature range they’re talking about here. Or else they say I won’t ‘get the right amount of flavor’ out of the darned beans.........Next they’re sayin’ my automatic coffeemaker might not be right, so I’d have to check how hot it heats water, if its off, throw the sucker out and buy another one!

Then there’s the freshness issue. They suggest you buy it every week if you really want a primo cup of joe. Hmmmm. Sounds like a finicky product if you ask me.

But hey! Guess what? They say you can reheat the hell out of it without compromising its flavor. That beats real coffee hands down! All right!
......but what IS its flavor?

Source:, “The Art of Brewing”